Youll find her corrupt theology lacking. The fact that there is no mention of a man has been used to deduce that she was a widow. Choosing to Break My Victim Mentality - Christine Caine, Christine Caine and Victoria Osteen join Laurie Crouch on TBN's Praise to discuss how it is possible for everyone to be redeemed from a broken past through Jesus Christ. And the pain of recovery will be greater than the pain of the injury, but if you do it, your leg will be stronger than your other leg for the rest of. And on my not-so-great days I can spiral into a pit like anyone else. You can hear a thousand sermons on destiny and purpose and God having a plan for your lifeplans for good and not for evilbut if you come at that with a shame-based nature, then deep down you can never believe God could use you. I think this is a site for pharisees. It wont be the one warning marker but the thousands of them which will label a false teacher like a bad review on Amazon.com. Paul is adamant that no change can be introduced into the apostolic gospel. use to defend their position. Just because we think we are divorcing or reimagining the symbol from its original meaning does not make it holy. Weak and shallow theology is taught, and many grab onto it because they do not read Gods word as intended. To pray for Gods blessing on such a false teacher is expressly forbidden, and to do so is to ask God to bless apostasy and heresy. Light works most effectively in darkness. Rather than writing about her on message boards, I encourage you to follow Matthew 18 and attempt to reach her directly (her website, her social media accounts, her ministry, her appearancesincluding one in Chicago this week). Word of Faith Amen (I Timothy 6:20-21). Satan seeks to corrupt Christs Church through false ministers who preach a false message. http://followingjesuschrist3.com/2014/09/18/false-prophets-and-teachers/, Wow all I have to say is thank God he will be judging me & not you people All I see you doing here is turning people away from God spewing such hate, who are you to judge? All you have to do to drift is nothing. Apollos was a man mighty in the scriptures who taught accurately about Jesus but who nevertheless was only familiar with Johns baptism. But if you are the kind of person who always shrinks back from conflicteither because youre afraid or because you dont want to risk offending people or risk your chance at gathering a megachurchif you always shrink back from the conflict that sound doctrine brings, then you are not qualified to be a pastor. Christine decided to allow God to begin the process of healing and restoration. [1] Lydia of Thyatira is most known as a seller or merchant of purple cloth, which is the likely reason for the Catholic Church naming her patroness of dyers. It is unclear as to if Lydia simply dealt in the trade of purple dye or whether her business included textiles as well, many historians and theologians to believe that she was a merchant of specifically purple cloth.. If you know and read your bible that is quite obvious. 10 Take heed that ye despise not one of these little ones; for I say unto you, That in heaven their angels do always behold the face of my Father which is in heaven. CT's weekly newsletter highlighting the voices of women writers. Zip it!! In 2016, Christian author Carey Scott was the victim of plagiarism by a major celebrityinternational speaker and evangelist Christine Caine. Pardon me, but I need to focus WAY more on that before someone else. Get them into the boat. People tried to silence me, but God was faithful, Ravi Zacharias sins of sexual abuse went undetected for years. Peters bad behavior in this situation had a teaching function, and so Paul says that he had to oppose him to his face and in the presence of all (Gal. 19 Again I say unto you, That if two of you shall agree on earth as touching any thing that they shall ask, it shall be done for them of my Father which is in heaven. Oh, but in those same few years, I had attended plenty of Bible conferences and classes and had plenty to anonymously post about other people and their ministry on message boards! "God is able to take the mess of our past and turn it into a message. (Marin) I know Im glad Manny and Amy dont have a heaven or hell to put people in, because it sounds like theyd throw Lydia and Priscilla in. She adds, "I was blindsided by a surprise attack, but God was not. Spiritual Formation Hearsay? Deuteronomy 32:30 says: One will put 1,000 to flight, two will put 10,000 to flight. For me, love would not have been enough to get married. Lets crack open the Gospel of Luke and just read it again. They only care for themselves. So youre assuming I never emailed none of the people over the years? God does not want shepherds to be pugnacious and walking around all the time with a theological chip on their shoulder. This episode will help you overcome feeling disqualified because of your past so you can walk in freedom as you fulfill the purpose God has for your life. And that brings us to our second point. 9 And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life with one eye, rather than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire. That word is the same for us today we are responsible to test the spirits, research and hold everything up to Gods Word for comparison. Youve got to make what Jesus did for you bigger than what anybody has done to you, and what Jesus said about you greater than what anyone else said. There are two kinds of false teachers: those who repent and those who do not. This is strictly how a person who is not qualified, is handling scripture. I ask these questions in curiosity as Im truly baffled by the material I find here and all in the name of the same Christ that I follow.. Paula White considers Christine a friend, as does Sheryl Brady. And so that, as you could imagine, messed me up. For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple., The word mark is from (skopeo) which means to look at, behold, watch, contemplate; which is used metaphorically of looking to. It is used (Romans 16:17) of a warning against those who cause divisions, and in (Philippians 3:17) of observing those who walk uprightly that Christians might choose to walk after the example of the apostle and his fellow workers. I am curious to know the biblical basis for those who are unmarried to not be able to minister? Hagin (19172003) believed that it is Gods will that believers would always be in good health, financially successful, and happy. But I have a few things against thee, because thou hast there them that hold the doctrine of Balaam, who taught Balac to cast a stumbling block before the children of Israel, to eat things sacrificed unto idols, and to commit fornication. It was a fantastic interview from a man who showed he was searching for truth and was willing to change. God knows who the wolves are. Saturday, 23 January 2021 00:57. by Christine Caine is available now, To hear the full interview listen to Premier Christian Radio at 8pm on 3 July or download The Profile podcast, The agnostic journalist Elle Hardy has been investigating how Pentecostalism is taking over the world. Perhaps this is where we are talking past each other. If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not receive him into your house, and do not give him a greeting; for the one who gives him a greeting participates in his evil deeds (2 John 10-11). It cost me everything to go forward with Jesus. . Yes, Lydia was the LEADER of her house church and played a key role in getting her family baptized. [1] [2] gelist, Speaker, [4] [5] 2 Proponent of Word . I will NOT throw out that message. Christine Caine: Unleashing Your Life. We were diligent churchgoers, but it seemed to be more about our culture rather than a focus on a personal relationship with Jesus. If you cant see how presumptuous that is, well Youre assuming without knowing me, how do you know i would throw anyone in hell? The baskets kept filling up no matter how much food they distributed. In today's world real hope is hard to find. God gave you a lifeboat. I cannot believe I just read this comment on a Christian site. Follow Christine on Twitter @ChristineCaine. These people you speak of are powerful speakers of Gods word.. Its to bad you didnt spend your time teaching the Love of God rather then sit here in judgment of people your time would be better spent. Yet who knows whether you have come to the kingdom for such a time as this?, 15 Then Esther told them to reply to Mordecai: 16 Go, gather all the Jews who are present in Shushan, and fast for me; neither eat nor drink for three days, night or day. And I have never heard them condemn anyones teaching like they are being condemned here. Christine's desperate search for her roots turned up a birth certificate. Restoration is only possible for those who repent. I tried to tell somebody that could have intervened, but 40 years ago in Australia, the word abuse didn't even exist. You seem to have sincere concerns, so what does anonymously posting about them online do? Amo a Joyce, amo a Christine, a Beth ??? Grace be with thee. You seem to be very confident that your approach is Biblical, and in the end, that is what really matters. You know for someone who looks down on judging, you sure do a lot of it. Its sad and disappointing that this site calls for us to throw the baby out with the bathwater and ignore Christines call for us to keep winning souls for Christ. Here she is twisting a scripture that warns against false teachers, that is actually rebuking those who warn against false teachers something the false teachers often do. And shes passionate about helping to free others from the burden of shame too whether theyve suffered abuse, or simply struggle with everyday mummy-guilt. You may see that as liberal-feminism or call me a heretic, but I see that as the Christ in me touching the heart of someone who had lost his way. 21Not everyone who says to Me, Lord, Lord, will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of My Father in heaven. One day all the walls that man created with denominations will fall and we will stand before our King and will most likely realize that none of us had it all rightas much as some of us might like to think. ~ Christine Caine. You have NOT confronted them to their faces. Create Yours. It was my own walk with Christ, studying of the scripture, and life-changing experiences that helped me grow and see otherwise. 15It is not surprising, then, if his servants masquerade as servants of righteousness. (1 John 1:6-7). She loves to read, swim in the sea, play netball and lift weights with her dad. I think I can share a testimony now because I have ongoing victory in this area.. Christ said, They will know you by your love for one another., not differences. I remember cleaning the toilets as well. ~ Christine Caine. I have been waiting for you to say, Hey, I have concerns about what youre learning about ___, may I suggest you go to ____? In all of your posts to this other person AND to me, you have recommended NO ONE. ! I love you too!! 32 Then his lord, after that he had called him, said unto him, O thou wicked servant, I forgave thee all that debt, because thou desiredst me: 33 Shouldest not thou also have had compassion on thy fellowservant, even as I had pity on thee? (1 Timothy 2:12; Revelation 2:20). In 2015, Caine founded Propel Women, an organization that aims to empower women in Christian-related . 3:8) Home John says that the congregation has a responsibility to refuse all support for such teachers. You are also bearing false witness ( you accuse of jealousy, envy and trouble making) and youre judging out of pride and emotion, this is the way Christ forbids us to judge. Yoga. This woman of God, like every other women of God has a powerful testimony, this woman of God, like every other women of God is a powerful witness of Christ Jesus that makes the name of Jesus great. So I grew up with a strong God-consciousness, but not a personal relationship with Christ. A pastor cant be the kind of guy who cant accept an apology or recognize repentance when he sees it. And if you think God didnt use women to lead men and women in scripture I ask these questions in curiosity as Im truly baffled by the material I find here and all in the name of the same Christ that I follow. Quotes. Using the bible as a standard? If God called them to preach then who are you to deny what God has called them. 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(Marin)Did you know that Lydia and Priscilla are both listed BEFORE their husbands in the book of Acts because the writing style of the day indicated listing the LEADER of the household FIRST?. As I started to serve in youth ministry in my mid-20s, I realized I was going to have to deal with the darkness in my own life before I could shed light on anybody else's. Ukrainian People Living in Hope Despite Worsening Crisis, Chaplains Helping with Flood Disaster Recovery, How I Survived My Small Business Being Smashed By Floods and Pandemic, Living and Dying For Your Faith This Easter, Whats Important in My Life? I think Im living proof that you can start bad and finish good. Known for her ability to effectively communicate a message of hope, Christine has a heart for reaching the lost, strengthening leadership, and championing the cause of justice. Im the daughter of Greek immigrants. Excerpt: The only thing we can suggest you are about to hear is something you would expect a clairvoyant to say. The strawman argument youre trying to rope me into wont work with me. I have already shared my comfort level (or lack thereof) with talking about people I dont know without confronting them first, or speaking about ministries I have not had any interaction with. Click here for instructions on how to enable JavaScript in your browser. Thank you. It cost me everything to go forward with Jesus. Relational challenges, staff challenges, the whole world shifting and it was like: Chris, do you want to keep your foot on the gas? I could cruise Ive got so much momentum from 30-odd years of serving Jesus. Your talent will open the door but only your character can keep you there. I began really working through issues God was bringing to light. Victoria Osteen shares how God can use your past to bring greatness to the Kingdom. In other words, false teachers become subject to the churchs discipline. The only teachers whom the church supports are those whose teaching is in accordance with the standard of divine truth (3 John 8). Reading the context as to the time that Timothy was written, women then were NOT allowed to be nor were they educated and that is WHY they were not supposed to teach Gods word. In addition, Christine Caine endorses practice of pagan/witchcraft as seen here in Battersons Circle Making book blurb, 2. Heres what it means for your church, Beth Moore on overcoming abuse, growing a worldwide ministry and leaving her beloved denomination, Kemi Badenoch is right to defend Kate Forbes from religious intolerance, My daughters heart stopped as I watched on helplessly, I went to Mallorca to party. Im truly confused and wondering. If we would be faithful to Christ, we must be willing to impose the most extreme sanction that the church has to battle false teachers. Currently you have JavaScript disabled. Join thousands of others to get the FREEDOM POST newsletter for free, sent twice a week from The Christian Post. Isnt there a harlot in the lineage of Christ? As a minister myself, I cannot tell you how often the Lord has rebuked me after something I preached, we dont see the side of the preachers personal walk with the Lord who believe me will deal with whatever we speak. I needed faith and friends surrounding me who were full of faith. 29 And his fellowservant fell down at his feet, and besought him, saying, Have patience with me, and I will pay thee all. I guarantee you did! I have not met Ms Caine in person to have a conversation with her, so I will not breach scripture and start publicly questioning her faith or berating her ministry without giving her a chance to answer any questions and concerns I may have. You mean judgemental? It's the will to persevere even in the face of fear. You meaning taking the word for WHAT IT IS and SPEAKING AND FOLLOWING IT BY FAITH!!?? She said the most powerful tool to overcoming shame is knowing how much God values us. perverted and sinful, being self-condemned (Titus 3:11) 15 Moreover if thy brother shall trespass against thee, go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone: if he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother. How many people has the author of this article rescued from slavery? What did Jesus look like? The key issue is how we respond to correction. Stay blessed. For a good laugh I guess. I know because the simple fact that you believe They make themselves rich by promising you the same. For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple From the age of 3 to the age of 15, Christine Caine was abused by 4 men every week. We are supposed to be out there winning people to Christ the end time is near. Sounds like your liberal-modern theology, empowered-woman paradigm is full of holes, I think its better to follow the bible, not Caine and her twisted notion of scripture. In no way was I attacking anyone, if it came across like that, then I apologize, that was not the intent. if a man have an hundred sheep, and one of them be gone astray, doth he not leave the ninety and nine, and goeth into the mountains, and seeketh that which is gone astray? Joyce Meyer brought me closer to my walk with JESUS and my daughter is going into ministry to teach people about Jesus and HIS LOVE for his people! Get encouraging stories and messages from Billy Graham delivered to your inbox every weekend. While Copeland remains the leader of the Word of Faith movement, several newer mass media Word of Faith preachers have eclipsed him in popularity, viz., Joel Osteen, Benny Hinn, Joseph Prince and Joyce Meyer.. I think thats where it got into me from a very young age, thinking, what is wrong with me?, there must be something wrong with me. is one of many scriptures that come to mind, I love that you are always willing to name names, as we are required to do in Romans 16:17. (Romans 16:17-18) Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them. I know Im glad Manny and Amy dont have a heaven or hell to put people in, because it sounds like theyd throw Lydia and Priscilla in. Ugliness! Dont sit back and have others do the work for you. There are no super-Christians, theres an amazing God. He is this hope that we have; nothing else is going to do it. Help keep The Christian Post free for everyone by making a one-time donation today. Among these are Hymenaeus and Alexander, whom I have delivered over to Satan, so that they may be taught not to blaspheme (1 Tim. If you have won souls to Christ this way, or have gotten any of the people you attack to repent, then AMEN. nor is pointing out false teachings and trying to warn and help others to be aware and learn, again you need to shut up and start reading your Bible and learning His word and not idolizing people and your own self made ideals and desires, and stop spouting ridiculous dim witted statements that are absurd,shut up and read His Word It is this which gives them away. The prolific writer and speaker has written openly about her experience of childhood sexual abuse and a raft of other challenging life events in her latest book, Unashamed. Christine Caine | (Photo: ChristineCain.com). 2) What is the role of a single women & widows in the church, if she is not preoccupied with the duties of wife and mother? The Lord convicted me about that through Ms Caines message, and I will forever be grateful to Him for the message and to her for being the vessel. Christine Caine partners with heretics, promotes them, and endorses them. I only speak on my personal experiences, what I have read, what I have heard, what I have been taught, and what interactions I participated in. You seem to have a very very real gripe with Ms Caine that I encourage you to take to her in person. At the beginning of the class, and many of the students were skeptical. It was this last experience, she says, which prompted the writing of her latest bookHow Did I Get Here? We can even look to the ways that Christ and the apostle Paul corrected and confronted false teachers, and your method STILL does not hold. 31 So when his fellowservants saw what was done, they were very sorry, and came and told unto their lord all that was done. I have seen words tear apart friendships, relationships, business partnerships, and churches, and so I want to use mine responsibly. 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