*********************************************, [URL]https://membership.nrahq.org/forms/signup.asp?campaignid=XI026751. What happens when you let the slide slam forward? Then compare frames and see what is different. It only hangs up if I hold the trigger back as if shooting off the reset. The only reason I switched to be honest, especially with primer scarcity. It's working fine now. All Rights Reserved. I do . You can take the Glock Armorers course and they give you one. If it does, you may want to look into a ligher recoil spring kit to continue using your existing loads. This is a brand new firearm and before you fired even one round down range you took it apart and modified it thus you have no baseline performence to know what the firearm was doing before you "improved" it. If it strips a round and goes completely into battery then the recoil spring is at least minimally OK. You will receive an email every Friday morning featuring the latest chatter from the hottest topics, breaking news surrounding legislation, as well as exclusive deals only available to ARFCOM email subscribers. I checked this (recoil spring drops a little) on my Glock. what I was trying to reference was the ' striker safety spring'. No reason to leave the plantation because the Timney would not work out in your Glock. It has a Scherer 3.5 connector. Any use of this content without express written consent is prohibited. It does once I release (reset) the trigger. Is this how it supposed to function? None of my other Glocks do it. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. It had 2056 through it. JavaScript is disabled. A couple thought on the trigger- if you work on the sear engagement, proceed with caution. Seat the magazine and pull the slide back all the way. Subscribe to our monthly Newsletter to receive firearm news, product discounts from your favorite Industry Partners, and more. Did you try having someone else shoot it? What load you firing? You will receive an email every Friday morning featuring the latest chatter from the hottest topics, breaking news surrounding legislation, as well as exclusive deals only available to ARFCOM email subscribers. The issue is the 19 will not go into battery when I pull the slide back. "Laws that forbid the carrying of armsdisarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimesSuch laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man." Could be too long and hitting the extractor bar/spring thingy and not letting the extractor get up over the case rim. Yes i am. Back to the G19m and several more failure to fires. Pull out a round that chokes the pistol in the manner you are describing. BrianEnos.com JavaScript is disabled. Ill be glad when theyre done and I can go back to the 4.0 lb spring. Maryland Shooters is the most active and largest Maryland gun community online. buddy19 I was a little afraid to fire it after I ran the recoil spring test and it didn't go back into battery. This may sound silly but when I was new to glocks I thought the pin in the grip frame was only if you used the extended back straps. *Must have a registered ARFCOM account to win. I bought a Suarez milled RMR cut slide for my Glock 19 Gen 3 and if I pin the trigger after a shot, it almost never goes back into battery, which makes sense, but sometimes when I shoot correctly and don't pin the trigger it still doesn't go back into battery. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. The simple thing seems to be that something did not go back together right. I only switched because my Glock trigger could only set off certain primers due to the lightness of the springs I needed to get it to work. I found my recoil springs drops a little as well. Haha. AR15.COM is the world's largest firearm community and is a gathering place for firearm enthusiasts of all types. Everything is right in the world of Glock again. that should fix it for sure, I assume you are using the "U" shaped washer as well ? This is also why I ended up trying the Timney. -Thomas Jefferson, quoting Cesare Beccaria, This is a decent video to check out to double check. Never had an issue with the factory barrel. 20+ is for 10mm. I noticed that even after one dry-fire, the recoil spring assembly drops down a little bit when I take the slide off the frame. Its never happened with the factory barrel. You can post now and register later. Sorry about that. I do not recommend using a dremel on that. I will look into buying some calipers. If you need to smooth the face on the cruciform, I've found that a super fine file works best. Is this RSA going to $hit already? You cannot paste images directly. Ive tried swapping the extensions to different mag bodies for what its worth and the result is the same. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. If it goes into battery completely then the recoil spring is at least minimally OK. Another test I've seen done is to load a magazine completely full. Based on your answers, I would suggest (2) things. You may post anything as long as it is related to the Glock line of pistols, and you are not spamming our sub with your advertisements, sales, YouTube channel. Is there something specific i should look at on the mags? Welcome to Glocks, The problem is when the slide slams forward. I bought a used (only shot one time) Gen 3 Glock 36. I don't know what the freaking problem is with my gun not going back into battery. Your previous content has been restored. JavaScript is disabled. A bit off the Timney topic, but you might try a Lone Wolf connector with the Overwatch trigger. I put some vibratite on the screw and am going to head to the range to test it in a few minutes. Did you completely strip the frame when you changed connectors or just the trigger assembly? What is the length of your round, bullet type, and powder/charge for the reload? Others who know more might add some but I think it's not a problem and will wear in with use. Come join the discussion about optics, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, troubleshooting, accessories, classifieds, and more! I noticed that sometimes when I shoot, it will not go into battery (cycles fine otherwise) until I release the trigger. I just made the switch to CO from Production with my 34.5 MOS. before the timney Ive been using a glockstore black yikes connector and Overwatch Precision trigger. From hunters and military members, to competition shooters and general firearm enthusiasts, we welcome anyone who values and respects the way of the firearm. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Then again, I would caution folks not to expect any new trigger or trigger part is going to be a simple drop in item. I agree with comments a few others have already made that Timney triggers are not necessarily a simple drop in. plunger spring or firing pin spring so i would leave the alone. Just got my slide back from being milled for dp pro and does not go into battery every time. After replacing all the springs and detail cleaning everything with no luck, I was eventually told to replace the extractor. I bought a LW threaded barrel direct from Gemtech last year for my suppressor. In one range trip (about 350 rounds) and one match this past weekend, I basically can't get through a magazine without multiple failures to go into battery. Paste as plain text instead, I read it gave a much nicer trigger pull. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Wish I could look at it directly. That's been my experience. If you see light off-center strikes it may well be. I had a problem with my G23 that did exactly that. There are too many to quote, so I will just address the points. with the gun completely empty and the factory connector installed I can still get it to FTRTB by holding it vertically and riding the slide home with the trigger depressed. No need to clean, just add lube. Pasted as rich text. I recall him going into the slide then saying "wait, I don't have to mess with this." You cannot paste images directly. before the timney Ive been using a glockstore black yikes connector and Overwatch Precision trigger. Break it in!!! When I got the first one for my 34.4, I had multiple issues that I couldn't resolve, so I got my backup 34.4 dropped that same trigger in and it ran perfectly first time in. Thanks. Just an excuse to try something new. Thanks for the suggestion. I have just installed an Agency arms trigger & trigger bar in the gun. JavaScript is disabled. Handy to have this around while you're tinkering A forum community dedicated to all New York firearm owners and enthusiasts. My 19 does that but when I shoot everything seems to be OK. The Glock in question is the G-30SF .45ACP. Knock on wood but I think I may have figured it out with help from many of your suggestions. Let not my last thought be If only I had my gun; and Lord if today is truly the day that You call me home, let me die in a pile of empty brass. The slide goes into battery, but the primer hits look off. It's as if the holding of the trigger is holding back the slide somehow. It may not display this or other websites correctly. is the cruciform on the trigger bar seated properly in the trigger mechanism housing? If you really want to fly, get out of the plane. It has failed to return fully to battery once but every other time, it's a brief hesitation then it snaps into battery. After about 500 rounds, and a couple of good cleanings it began cycling fine. I know a few guys who shoot sigs and its starting to feel like Ive been trying to make my gun perform more like theirs. Your link has been automatically embedded. My friend is having an issue with his 80% glock 19. I'm kinda an apartment dweller with more Barbie dolls than tools (they are my daughters. My Glock trigger was/is the same as my Timney, 2.5#. Interesting. Just file a little, test, file a little till it isnt happening any more? I don't know if that is the problem, but thank you for trying to help. Let it forward a little bit and then let go. While you are on our site, don't forget to check out our Glock Frame Disassembly, Glock Frame Reassembly, Glock Slide Disassembly and Reassembly as well as Glock Field Strip videos to learn more about the Glock pistols. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Upload or insert images from URL. I only shoot factory ammo. So w/o any round the chamber, pull the trigger back and hold it, then ease slide back and look for the slide to raise up some. Thanks for all the feedback everyone. I think I had a similar problem once. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. I've tried three different brand new ones.I can also add that I am 99% sure the problem is in the slide. I recently changed out the connector on a new G19 I picked up and I noticed that if I rode the slide home slowly while doing dry fire practice the gun would FTRTB due to a longer arm on the connector that rides against the cam on the slide. I totally get this. I had a friend of mine install the 3.5 connector with the NY1 trigger spring on my old Glock 19. Ive had to bump up my striker spring to get their a few boxes of really old PMC primers that came my way. If the slide goes into battery with this test, you've got other issues. Have you tried a different firing pin spring? I gave it a little more oil than normal and seems to be getting better. Or you can order them for like 2-3 bucks offline from Midway or Brownells. Copyright 1996-2023 AR15.COM LLC. I bought the G19 new, and ive never torn the slide down. This is only going to be used at the range. That is like test driving your car with the engine off then complaining of poor acceleration. Nice pull and crisp break. since it started when you changed the connector, it sounds like its an assembly issue. Upload or insert images from URL. this is normal for a glock as they are not designed to have the slide closed slowly like this. I initially chalked it up to the recoil spring being too light or a magazine issue, but it's still happening after swapping the stock, barely used RSA back in, and it has happened with all of the extensions. In the dozen or so that I have built and helped build, I have never had a need to 'file' down a trigger bar safety tab. Is this RSA going to $hit already? Display as a link instead, Never an issue with limp wristing so far. sounds to me like the Timney is your problem, not the Glock. Ok, then 2k rounds isn't outside the realm of possibility for the spring to start failing the spring test. Come join the discussion about optics, hunting, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! If this is only an issue when easing the slide forward than it may not be an issue at all. My current set-up is a glockstore tungsten guide rod w/ 13lb spring, TTI Grand Master spring and connector kit, and SRO on a forward controls design plate. Just a thought. On a side note, this gun did not want to feed my semiwadcutters at all, and also pinched my pinky a lot. Here's how you can test if it's a recoil spring issue: 1 With the pistol empty, pull the trigger, and keep the trigger depressed. Outdoor Hub, LLC (d/b/a Carbon Media Group), 30800 Telegraph Rd, Suite 1921, Bingham Farms, MI 48025 USA. UPDATE! This allowed the rear trigger housing to raise up and give me battery/jamming issues as well. It should close by itself. The test I use is to take an UNLOADED gun and hold the trigger back, rack the slide back, then let the slide forward with my handto the point just before the barrel starts to rotate up, then I release the slide. Check for it. Wondering if you ever got your issues resolved? The Barbie dolls are mine. Any Glock armour out there that can give me some advice? I've got a 3rd gen G19 that I use as a suppressor host. The plunger spring somehow got turned sideways. Back up a step that you took, and test,.. ie,.. swap the Timney back out. If the firing pin did not drop then chances are that is the issue. NWGlocker Registered Joined Aug 12, 2010 Its light but mushy. Just curious as to what Glock said. I am pretty familiar, but I work with a Glock Advanced Armorer and even he is a bit stumped. By Usually, what the OP is describing is a problem somewhere else in the gun. Tapping on the magazine or back of the slide gets the round to chamber. I am finding that especially when dry-firing, even when I am careful to let the slide "slam" shut, the slide hangs up right before lockup. The problem is once I pull the trigger, and the slide racks either from firing or manually, it won't return fully to battery while the trigger is held back. I have 3 of them and two of the three needed extensive adjustments to the connector and trigger bar cross bar to reset properly and consistently drop the striker. Great info thank you. Just got a new spring today. Powered by Invision Community, failure to go into battery after installing Timney Trigger. Thanks for the info. When I pull it all the way back and then release, the slide locks just fine. Powered by Invision Community. I'm not new to glocks and have done detailed strips before so I don't think it is the recoil spring not seated correctly. Several years ago a local Glock shooter told me Lone Wolf is what he used. moved the trigger spring up on the trigger bar. It will be fine for a few shots, or even a magazine (10 rounds. I am doing my Armorers class this coming week and planned to bring up the question. If it were me I would use a calipers to take some measurements of your OEM slide rail slots from front to back versus your new Suarez slide front to back,I suspect you will discover differences. If I let It slam shut there is no problem. Timney should be a little more straightforward with their instructions. If you can get it to be smooth with a clean and consistent break, the pull will still be 5 to 5.5 pounds. Assuming you called Glock, how did they respond to this issue? I have to say that with a little tuning my Timney triggers run like no other Glock trigger I have owned and they are really a game changer for Glock pistols if you look closely at how they function! 2 Angle the pistol so that the muzzle is pointed straight up. A slight adjustment to the crimping die corrected the problem. When I say it won't go back into battery I mean when I hand cycle the slide and let it down easy. If it does, its hitting that bump too high. Just got my G26 back from Cold Bore Customs and did a quick trigger job, installed a smooth trigger and an extended slide release. Just wanted to point out that you can limp wrist with both hands on the gun and if everything is stock like you said, and you truly believe it has only been fired once, I default to user error. Pasted as rich text. Or has it been an issue since purchase? If so, look for interference or binding during feeding. For that matter, 99.99% of dirty unlubricated Glock 23's with stock parts and well worn RSA's will go into battery 99.99% of the time with all but the worst .40 cal ammo. Ammo used was all cheap Tula 9mm 115 gr. Comedian and Student of Life | Ep 029 JP Sears, [ARCHIVED THREAD] - Glock 19 w/ LWD threaded bbl not going into battery with trigger depressed *Fixed*. No lube should be needed on RSA. 2 Angle the pistol so that the muzzle is pointed straight up. Shoot the crap out of it. It seems like it gets caught on something when you hold the trigger back, like to test the reset, and then when you release the trigger the slide eases forward on its own. Glocks are pretty simple really. One new winner* is announced every week! No aftermarket parts except Night Sights on a Glock that is going to be a Self Defense Weapon. To check the recoil spring for wear I was told to remove the magazine and empty the gun. Lots of creep, but that is by design. I'm wondering if it could be a defective recoil spring? I knew what it felt like from a second 17 I own, so I knew that was the route I wanted to go. What Argyle said sounds about right. If I sling shot the slide it works fine but I can't remember any of my other Glocks having problems getting them to go back into battery while riding the slide(when dry firing). Thanks. "first thing i would check is your connector tension, if there is too much tension it will restrict slide movement". It appears that the safety plunger spring was laying sideways instead of inside the safety plunger. LW barrels are drop in, but they really are more of forced fit. Sometimes you just need to oil them and rack the slide a few hundred or thousand times to break it in. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. The second came from the Instructor I took the course from. Its been awhile but isn't that a test on the glock holding the gun upright and dropping the slide with the trigger held? This may sound crazy but if you or a buddy have a tac light slip it on the rail and try firing again. This did the trick. A Glock is one of the easiest pistols to work on and we have pleanty of content for you to learn more about this pistol. I'll do a detail strip soon and see if I find anything out of the ordinary. Glad you got it fixed. Yes, the Glock has been altered from stock. I put it back with the stock parts, and the issue continues. 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