The cylinder does not swing out. Expensive revolvers such as Korth and Manurhin are hand-fitted, keeping the gap to a minimum. The bullet must "jump" this gap when fired, which can have an adverse effect on accuracy, especially if the barrel and chamber are misaligned. It also improved accuracy by self-centering the bullets relative to the barrel. 115 Grain vs. 124 Grain 9mm Ammo: Whats the Difference? More on that in a moment, but the guns service deserves a little attention because it was a warhorse, despite its odd appearance and anemic reputation. Many thousands were sold in the past twenty years and still sit in gun cabinets as amusing plinkers. Slower target ammunition with the same bullet weight as the original increases drop, so the sights are regulated closer to 15 yards with it. by etprescottazusa91 Tue Sep 15, 2020 1:58 pm, Return to Military and Modern Hand Guns Forum, Powered by phpBB Forum Software phpBB Limited. In Russian service, it was known for its extreme sturdiness and ability to withstand abuse. This eliminates the cylinder gap. Fiocchi and Prvi PPU make pretty good ammo for the Nagant. Therefore, all the energy and gas are focused forward through the barrel and out the muzzle. There are, however, better quality rounds out there. condition. [8] It continued to be used after the Russian Revolution by the Red Army and Soviet security forces. For more than two centuries, Westley Richards has produced some of the worlds finest firearms, each wearing a timeless and classic look with bespoke flourishes. Well all probably be using magnetic pulse rifles and some shepherd in the Kyber Pass will still be packing his great-great-great-grandfathers Nagant revolver. Younger Millennials remember $79 Mosin-Nagant rifles; and we all bought a CZ-52 because it was like 150 bucks. Part of the guns reputation for weakness comes from the poor quality, low powered ammo that was made for target shooting. weapon for the rear site, while at the bottom right you can see a close
Picked up this today. The quaint feature was the single leading through a gate combined with sequential extraction of spent casings. for the use or application of material found on this site. replacing parts, there is no need to disassemble the weapon to this
Some things like the sealing system and the transfer bar were ahead of their times. The cartridges performance, however, is helped by the guns operating system. Smith & Wesson's new M&P FPC is a compact, folding pistol-caliber carbine chambered in 9 mm Luger and designed to accept the company's M&P handgun magazines. Production of the single-action model seems to have stopped after 1918, with some exceptions, including examples made for target competition. I saw several nice samples in the $500+ range. The original military loads used approximately 100gr bullets at about 1100fps. On the upper right you can see what it looks like when almost completely disassembled. [7], Production began in Lige, Belgium; however Russia purchased the manufacturing rights in 1898, and moved production to the Tula Arsenal in Russia, and was soon producing 20,000 examples per year.[7]. Numbers Number 1 -- Unknown mark Triangle 1 -- 1871st ABV Moscow Military District Triangle 1 -- 103rd GRAU Arsenal 2 -- Unknown Mark -- (martin08) 02 -- Hungarian Arsenal Mark -- (martin08) Russia. are "known" marks, and some are not known at
Unfortunately, the main problem with this revolver has also long been its unique ammunition. authenticity or misuse of the site content or material found on the
This ammunition is interchangeable with the 7.5mm 1882 Ordnance (aka Swiss 7.5mm revolver).[25][26]. Even the United States tried to go with a softer shooting sidearm with the Colt New Army/Navy, introduced in 1892, which was chambered in .38 Long Colt. A prominent captured example lives in the, Also, unlike its contemporaries from Colt, Smith & Wesson, and Webley, the Nagants cylinder featured a loading gate and ejector rod, like a. A prominent captured example lives in the CIA Museum. But in the late 19th and early 20th centuries, chamberings such as 6.5mm and 7.65 mm (.32 ACP) were very common in Europe. Also the markings on the inside flap of the holster. One belief is that it possibly refers to the pistol being converted from single action to double action. Back to the durability the features like mainspring made out of tractor leaf springs, the simple loading gate, and the generally rough nature of the gun made them incredibly long-lasting. The common Russian name for the revolver, ( nagan) became synonymous with the concept of the revolver in general and was applied to such weapons regardless of actual make or model. This way, early Nagant users would avoid dealing with gases of black powder. Virtually every part of the weapon is photographed and
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Darryl Boyd 2011-2018. At first I wasn't impressed with the piece, the trigger was heavy, the sights barely visable, and Factory Ammo all but unavailable. It was obsolete by the time war broke out in 1914, but the Russian Army was still the least advanced in Europe and needed upgrades more pressing than a new service pistol. For maximum accuracy your eye should be focused on the
: : // , 2008 , 248 24.03.2000 , , Rappaport, The Last Days of the Romanovs: Tragedy at Ekaterinburg (2009), p. 181. GI#: 102153983. As a fun aside, the SA only Nagants are also specifically mentioned in the Single Action Shooting Societys rule book as legal for Cowboy Action Shooting. More recently, Prvi Partisan (PPU) (sometimes branded Hot Shot) became available at about $22 per 50. Today in the West, the Nagant revolver is a collectors curiosity item. History, Development, and Use
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up of the blade sight and the muzzle of the weapon. A lot of shooters go through a military surplus or Curio and Relic phase of their gun ownership. Theres no doubt that the Nagant will be with us for a long time. The Nagant's sealed firing system meant that the Nagant revolver, unlike most other revolvers, could make effective use of a sound suppressor, and suppressors were sometimes fitted to it.[14]. If you want to suppress it, youll have to do some work. The sources I found rate the Nagants performance, with 108 grain military ammo, at 900 to 1,100 FPS. Thank you! [12], The M1895 revolver was used extensively by the Russian Imperial Army and later by the Soviet Union after the Russian Revolution. What we have at present is a very competent revolver for hunting small game. by tjtM38 Wed Sep 09, 2020 1:50 pm, Post I should warn you that these pages can take some time to
There was also a BRAMIT device for mounting on the M91 Mosin-Nagant rifle that used special subsonic ammunition. Henry Repeating Arms recently presented a $25,000 check a nonprofit organization that provides support and programs for the families and co-workers of firefighters killed in the line of duty. In 2013 the weapon was again prohibited. [6], Lon Nagant and his brother mile were well known in the Russian Tsar's court and military administration because of the part they had played in the design of the Russian service rifle, the MosinNagant Model 1891. "Fast is fine, But accuracy is everything". by SA1911a1 Wed Sep 09, 2020 5:26 am, Post This is a really neat complete setup with lanyard and holster. In 1898 space had been freed up to start production at the Tula arsenal, where they would be made until 1945 (Ishevsk put the Nagant revolver into production as well during WWII). And yet the 1895 Nagant remains popular for reasons other than its historic cachet. [13] In the police role, it was frequently seen with a cut-down barrel to aid in concealment by plainclothes agents. Area Code: 314. I guess they had to move it to keep it away from the nazis. (Photo: Terril Herbert) There were more powerful cartridges out in 1895 as were there swing-out cylinder. More importantly, everything it makes has the performance to match. GunMag Trivia: Did the Pilgrims Have Guns? The Nagant 1895 revolver served on both sides. Despite the cool operating system, the Nagants performance relies on quality ammunition. The Russian military needed several years to recover from its defeat in the Far East and the Nagant stayed in service. Send email to admins@russian-mosin-nagant-forum.com. This feature also eliminates the possibility of injury from gases escaping through the gap, which can injure a finger if the user holds the gun with a finger positioned beside the gap.[10]. German: German Mfg. Most single-action revolvers were later converted to double-action, making original single-action revolvers rather rare. New? Whatever you have there, refurbished or revised, it is a very unique revolver. On the other hand,. Which mark on my pictured holster is the stamp and what does it mean? The owner,
The bottom left shows that the pistol was made in
Content. Posts: 313. = = Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic, i.e. The Nagant was produced throughout the war at the Tula Arsenal, with the last one being built in 1950. Left side view of Model 1895 Nagant Revolver. The Russians chose a .30 caliber 97 grain bullet doing about 1000 feet per second, which is cool when its called 32 H&R Magnum and comes in a gun with a good trigger pull, but when its made by Communistsisnt as cool. At the time the revolver was designed, this system was obsolete. The square without a line through it indicates an early rebuild, probably before WW2. He was born in 1921 and later served as a navy corpsman in Japan and Korea. 3 Notice location of serial number on the frame and the square rebuild mark. German: Foreign Mfg. https://www.sgammo.com/product/762x38r- y-surplus-. The real legacy of the M1895 Nagant is its impressive durability. The pressure at the cylinder to barrel gap is much higher than at the muzzle, so revolvers are louder than semi-auto pistols using the same cartridge. This also happens when the hammer is manually cocked. 2023 GunMag Warehouse. And of course, anyone who collects Russian militaria needs one. One of the mainstays of the milsurp market is a Nagant, but not the rifle. Copyright 2023 National Rifle Association, Women On Target Instructional Shooting Clinics, Volunteer At The Great American Outdoor Show, Marion P. 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The Nagant 1895 revolver served on both sides. This wasnt a feature that any other service revolvers at the time sported. The cartridge, also unique, plays an important part in sealing the gun to prevent the escape of propellant gases. There is an example of a suppressed Nagant M1895 in the CIA Museum in Langley, Virginia, USA. Between low noise and recoil, very good accuracy and finally available non-corrosive ammunition, it is a reasonable choice for rabbit-sized gameheadshots are practical to about 15 yards and body shot came be taken out to about 30 yards without excessive meat damage. The original cartridge was loaded with black powder, and individual extraction was more reliable than simultaneous. The Nagant M1895 was adopted as the standard issue side arm for the Imperial Russian Army and police officers, where it replaced earlier Smith & Wesson models such as the Model 3. It was still produced and used in great numbers during World War II and If you want to buy a Nagant revolver, GunBroker.com will be your best bet. The weapon has been considered to be "antique" in Belgium so it became legal to be in possession of the weapon. Some surplus loads go up to 109gr and nearly 1300fps, though that may be from improper storage and resulting overpressure. The picture at
The other benefit of the gas seal is greatly reduced noise levels. of greatest importance are easily identified on the left side. While functional, it loses most of the advantages of the unique Nagant design and is recommended only if proper ammunition is completely unavailable. In the Russian Federation, it was only retired from use with postal security service in 2003, and from bailiffs security service ( ) in 2009. has been carelessly treated by its previous owner, but we will do our best to
That eliminated the cylinder gap flash (incidentally allowing effective sound suppression) for slightly higher velocity and increased shooter comfort. By sealing the gap, the velocity of the bullet is increased by 15 to 45 m/s (50 to 150 ft/s.) Thanks for the feed back Mouser. The original sights were regulated for about 25 yards. For a long time, the only available non-corrosive load was Fiocchi at about $30 per 50 rounds. No
The years between the Russian Civil War and World War II saw the founding of the Soviet Union and the eventual power transition to Josef Stalin after Lenin died in 1924. It is all matching and has no import marks. Overall length is 9.2 inches. The Swedish and Norwegian Nagants used a different cartridge, the 7.5mm Nagant. Featured Gun Classifieds Nagant Revolvers, Tula Russian nagant 1895 7.62x 28. And of course, anyone who collects Russian militaria needs one. This marking was used only for 3 years - 1921-1, c1932 mfr. They were corrosive and only moderately consistent. Surplus ammo availability was limited mainly to the low-power target loads shown above. Price does include shipping. The common Russian name for the revolver, (nagan) became synonymous with the concept of the revolver in general and was applied to such weapons regardless of actual make or model. The real legacy of the M1895 Nagant is its impressive durability. You will find it on 91/30's and carbines also, as the dates are from the era of Stalin you just know it had to be some dark, and sinister organization. VT.". Enthusiasts have been able to adjust the pull by adjusting the V shaped spring, either by grinding it[11] or shimming it. Let us know what topics you would be interested: 203 Performance on Demand Milspec Mojo. by ffuries Tue Jun 16, 2020 3:59 am. The Nagant revolver does away with that gap. Decades of experience with handguns and holsters have given the author some excellent insights into the most popular designs. But the 7.62x38R isnt as bad as many claim. This Old Gun: Model 1895 Nagant Revolver | An Official Journal Of The NRA Join Renew Donate Explore The NRA Universe Of Websites CLOSE Quick Links NRA.ORG Manage Your Membership NRA Near You. All Nagant revolvers feature an innovative transfer bar safety to prevent accidental firing if the gun is dropped while the hammer lies on a live round. What ammo is available runs $35 - $50 USD per box of 50. Despite the advent of the more modern Soviet TT pistol, the M1895 remained in production and use throughout World War II. The above mentioned factory emblems were used on rifles and carbines in the 1930's and 1940's, they were adopted in 1928 when both factories changed their emblems, compared with their earlier ones. However, the Nagant design did have the advantage of requiring less machining than more modern designs. The years between the Russian Civil War and World War II saw the founding of the Soviet Union and the eventual power transition to Josef Stalin after Lenin died in 1924. The empty space in the brass neck of the cartridge protrudes into the forcing cone, completing the gas seal. That cartridges underwhelming performance prompted the return to the .45 ACP with the M1911 and the Smith & Wesson Model 1917 revolver. But rather, its there to improve accuracy and decrease fouling. At 7 yards, I have no trouble shooting all seven shots so closely that the holes touch, producing groups of around one inch. 1928 or Ispr 1928 means corrected in 1928. translates as ispravlennie which translates as corrected, amended, or revised. Shorter 32ACP cases do not provide gas seal but do provide very considerable freebore in the long cylinders, both ruining accuracy. Its design would inspire the Pieper M1893 carbine[5] and Steyr 1893 revolver. Copyright Complaints: Please direct DMCA Takedown Notices to the registered agent: http://www.h6x.net/nagant_m1895_years_and_marks.htm, http://7.62x54r.net/MosinID/MosinRareNagant.htm, http://www.surplusrifle.com/pistolm1mble/index.asp, http://www.imssu.org/articles/The%2020revolver.pdf. - Cover plate arrangement. Lets take a closer look at how that system works. Many are in great shape, and they arent terribly expensive, even with the way MILSURPS have gone up the last ten years. 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