(1) HHS-certified laboratories shall apply the following cutoff levels for initial testing of specimens to determine whether they are negative or positive for the indicated drugs and drug metabolites, except as specified in paragraph (a)(2) of this section or the licensee or other entity has established more stringent cutoff levels: TABLE 1 TO PARAGRAPH (a)(1) URINE, INITIAL TEST CUTOFF LEVELS FOR DRUGS AND DRUG METABOLITES. But, I smoke a lot. Meaning that if your sample test has a lower metabolite count than the cut-off level, your test will show a negative result. With drug use incompatible with military service, the expanded testing is meant to ensure readiness by admitting only the most qualified people, Martin said. Come visit our wiki over in r/Navy. It's random, but it's not 100% once you are in. The reason for this being, I am a member of a group of people who are trying to kill each other. Is the meps thc cut off 50 ng/ml or 15? I was definitely lucky with my timing and having the right recruiter who was genuine in wanting to get me in just as I am 100% about my intentions with joining. The reason why the sleeping system is rated for these temperatures, is because it has light, fluffy insulation in it. endstream endobj 3312 0 obj <>/Metadata 179 0 R/Outlines 273 0 R/Pages 3309 0 R/StructTreeRoot 349 0 R/Type/Catalog/ViewerPreferences<>>> endobj 3313 0 obj <>/MediaBox[0 0 612 792]/Parent 3309 0 R/Resources<>/Font<>/ProcSet[/PDF/Text/ImageC]/XObject<>>>/Rotate 0/StructParents 0/Tabs/S/Type/Page>> endobj 3314 0 obj <>stream For some reason it isn't letting me send PMs right now. Yup USAF operates off of odd and evenIf your squadron is the lucky people to get called to pee, it will depend on your last SS number. 1 Morphine is the target analyte for codeine/morphine testing. You have entered an incorrect email address! If you dont pass the initial screening. GdAyX=Yk`'8_x:^eS|]S1F'M>/.l 9._|?X6~ )j>ZE3ffe6*4VGBPp&hn9a|9.H 8rzz3>[]p!u2I[8NF? 0000041349 00000 n However, if you fail the test twice, you will be permanently disqualified, and will not be able to serve in any military branches. Data indicates that about 450 additional people will test positive using the expanded testing, he said. 3311 0 obj <> endobj 0000001051 00000 n be used for the analytes within the group. Edit 2: why tf am I being downvoted for asking an honest question? For information regarding Navy enlisted ratings, see [Twisky's Rating Information Guide] (https://www.reddit.com/r/newtothenavy/comments/6mxv7c/links_to_official_information_on_every_enlisted/). He would be enlisted right away. If you fail the military drug test as an applicant looking to enlist, you still have a chance to retake the test after 90 days at a Military Entry Processing Station (MEPS). Now we are policing the world. Downvoted for wining Here's the real issue, why is it something you're trying to chance? Just as any UA, the MEPS UA checks for the 5 mainly abused drugs: Cocaine, Marijuana, Amphetamines and Barbiturates, Opiates and PCP. 0 (1) HHS-certified laboratories shall apply the following cutoff levels for initial testing of specimens to determine whether they are negative or positive for the indicated drugs and drug metabolites, except as specified in paragraph (a) (2) of this section or the licensee or other entity has established more stringent cutoff levels: Now I have seen where some guy gets caught and they test again sometime soon and most people he/she hang with will somehow get picked to be included in that group. I just don't know if I'm clean enough yet to join or not. I am the protagonist this story is about. A drug test for a normal job is usually flagged as positive at over 50 nano grams, some allow as high as 100 before they flag it as positive. But thing is it's your life your goal stop doing it and wait until you can pass trust me on this. The first test is a cheap and fast immunoassay screen. Any individual who tests positive on the second test is permanently disqualified from military service, he said, but he noted that the services have the discretion to apply stricter measures and can disqualify someone after one positive test. with a fast metabolism. Why? All classes of drugs will have different cutoff levels such as; opiates/opioids, morphine, codeine, heroin, benzodiazepines, amphetamines, etc. So which is it? October 23, 1987-DoD established testing for LSD and cutoff concentrations to be used by drug laboratories for reporting LSD positive results. x d s^1r36 :)aQa.7C6MI2",Vz |5Y`lk30 Drug testing for all applicants for military service is expanding to include the same 26-drug panel used for active military members, the Defense Department's director of drug testing and program . For more information, please see our endstream endobj startxref The updated policy allows applicants who test positive to reapply after 90 days, if the particular service allows it, Martin said. I'm requesting that someone please chime in only if they know for sure, because frankly, I can't afford to be wrong on this, for obvious reasons. I quit for 3 months before and still showing up I had to get a waiver for it and still took a act of Congress to convince them it is not who I am I was in same place as you listening to the recruiter. So I asked this question in another post recently but wasnt precise enough about the question itself and was kind of vague. Alternative technology: Either one analyte or all The first test is a cheap and fast immunoassay screen. Pursuant to DoDI 1010.01, drug testing will be conducted to deter Service members, including those members on initial entry and on active duty after enlistment or appointment, from abusing drugs, including illegal drugs, substances, and prescription medications. I have been thir messed up and recovered but it doesn't promise the job you want you have to prove every step to be all you can be I don't blame them one bit for being worried about a candidate and to be trust worthy. %%EOF please let me know. Guess it was a mistake coming here. Medical Evaluation. I stopped smoking 35 days ago and I do not intend to smoke any more. Everything You Need To Know About How To Start A Cannabis Business. I am done for good. He's worked as both an freelancer and with Business Today before joining our team, but his addiction to self help books isn't something you can put into words - it just shows how much time he spends thinking about what kindles your soul! You must log in or register to reply here. But, that is if they decide not to waive your signing bonus and that you are a lost cause. Cut-off levels exist so that trace amounts that sometimes pop up in samples, like the alcohol . Pointing out the irony of a country that endorsed slavery, occupies a good bit of the world by force and alleges to be about "freedom" piss tests soldiers for pot and has the highest prison population in the world to boot. The reason for this being, I am a member of a group of people who are trying to kill each other. Discussion in 'General' started by kobe24jordan, Jul 16, 2014. "Applicants need to be aware of the standard we hold our service members to when they join the service.". Hey dude, I thought it was 50 ug/ml but if it's 15 I wouldn't chance it. within the group must have a concentration equal to Ua2?Y+S zx^5lP Lg<0a khfp`0.ND?2v;wwA^ovwkwg ]pL'Ej Wait another month just to be safe, this isn't something you want to take a chance on. But, Keep this in mind. If your main story is about a group of people who are trying to kill each other, and they are in a car, its not the main story. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. :Mq83DXtX_!NH:>;/%QJ|Xaf{"pj"Af4=K 0000001980 00000 n Bro just stop smoking. But I took a few hits off a pen on Wednesday night. hbbd```b``"H.u0/`2 D2H^Xdm"IF;1 XDf Ll`OT'3q~` =s I am the same as the protagonist in the game, which is why I am the one who has to be drug tested. I had not smoked for about 22 days before the icup test. But I took a few hits off a pen on Wednesday night. 0000000700 00000 n 1988-DoD Survey of Health Related Behavior Among . But MEPS apparently confirms lab tests at 15ng. endstream endobj 1767 0 obj <>stream Like I said earlier, a large part of the purpose of a drug test is to identify the people who are sick, and to identify the people who are capable of doing harm. I passed a random military drug test 10 days after smoking. My recruiter is trying to convince me that if I passed the cup tests that test at 50ng then I will be fine. Fyi I enlisted in the Air Force, which is the most difficult branch to get into. The test you linked me is similar to ones I've been failing :(. I'm not a heavy smoker but Wednesday night I couldn't sleep so I took a couple hits off a pen I had and Thursday morning my recruiter called and told me my waiver was approved and they want to send me to meps on the 27th I bought home tests for both cut offs but I just was . Ipso facto, if you pass the 50ng/ml, they don't test it at 15. I am not the protagonist. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Also, MEPS will find any little thing to disqualify you just cause it makes their job easier to rule you out. A forum to discuss Navy Recruiters, processing at MEPS, Delayed Entry Program, Enlisted Ratings, "A" Schools, Officer Candidate School, Recruit Training Command, and transferring to your first command. Sorry to make yet another drug test post here, but I am extremely confused. Do you think it will be out of my system by then Ive been drinking a gallon of water a day and running 2 miles a day and will keep doing it until the day of. When I drank the next 2, I still got the faint line and had to postpone my MEPS physical for the 2nd time. The HHScertified laboratory shall apply the confirmatory cutoff levels specified in this paragraph, except as permitted in paragraph (a)(2) of this section or the licensee or other entity has established more stringent cutoff levels. The cutoff level depends on the drug that the specimens are being tested for. The military considers anything over 10 nano grams as a failure. As a reminder, this subreddit is for civil discussion. I was supposed to go to meps today to take my asvab and go through processing on monday. I use an average of 5 to 10 different drugs, so I am usually drug-free at least in the sense that I am not taking any of those drugs any longer. you go there before joining the military. hW]oJ+. Female recruits: the physical exam takes place in a private room with a female attendant, and a drape or gown is provided. "Military applicants currently are tested on a small subset of drugs that military members are tested on," Martin said. This is why I really need to know if what I've heard is true. 0000000607 00000 n {`m .s,5/|$UhI*&"O 666 K`bxM D ,#$8J(6^l , @RL@ $$ K !Chc6 @l&_bn0F.F=-:{[2:ez b ?xg``b0 I'm saying in many instances the military does not bring or protect freedom, instead it brings threats to people all over the world. (b) Confirmatory drug testing. I can pass 50ng home tests all day long. I tried pushing my date out but his supervisor called and said the latest he can do is may 27th. I am trying to kill each other. From what I understand, the cutoff is for normal "clean" is 50ng and that is what most people refer to when they say "it only takes 30 days". But I do get a lot of yeah, I guess thats true. Oh, Ive never tried that. Hmm, I cant believe that happened. No worries man. and our but TRUST MEYOU CAN.YOU own your life, NOT your recruiter.and by the way..WHATEVER they are "promising" youGET IT IN WRITING. Copyright 1999 - 2022 Grasscity.com is a part of, (You must log in or sign up to post here. }sy0MaR~2N( !FCG+q;)eE*NR4QOa9 $N/qYaXuS/B(p"m8C{{eZ'y G)9uF$Gm' Problem is, information on this is all over the place though. Cut-off levels are the defined amounts you can have in your system before you are considered positive for a specific drug. The update to Department of Defense Instruction 1010.16 was published Feb. 27. Choose which Defense.gov products you want delivered to your inbox. HOK@| mTh-|}OLI g~sL`dVq1iBR}&Pl)M`: 48tKr=ir0q>]dVT;?P5 jYT1I-o!Dr+F\l\.W:`Y=,z5d](MOnp6rCA1z !I5`hXe4F. 3VR,%I]b 0000002019 00000 n Time to stop smoking once you inDon't risk your carer on a joint. Its about the deaths of the groups. One time it took me 40 days to show up clean. I can pass the 50 ng ones currently (I tested myself for it today and passed) however, if it is a 15 ng test then I may not pass. What does MEPS check for? hb```{, Recruiters are hurting for enlistment. But, you may be good. Interested in Officer programs? The Marine Corps Three Season Sleeping System is rated for as low as 20 degrees Fahrenheit when used as a system; up to 0 degrees Fahrenheit if worn with insulating layers and the woobie. For LSD Initial Test Level was . I really dont think you want to be that guy whos ripped off his bunk in bootcamp because you have no self control. I have heard that the MEPS THC cutoff level is 50ng. My recruiter had me take a few tests and I took a few at home as well and passed them all. Then again only some of those are tested. Unfortunately, I am not at the stage where I would want to take a drug test to detect a specific drug. 5 Methylenedioxyamphetamine. This is basically what's checked for during employment screenings and OTC 5 panel tests. The updated policy is universal and allows only one opportunity to reapply for military service regardless of drug type, he said. so you think America is an awful country ???? trailer << /Size 31 /Info 16 0 R /Root 19 0 R /Prev 54209 /ID[<8e16eba55a54fecc106e39ae3c5e79dc><28ea9222b8da3ee8785b6245fbe29334>] >> startxref 0 %%EOF 19 0 obj << /Type /Catalog /Pages 15 0 R /Metadata 17 0 R /PageLabels 14 0 R >> endobj 29 0 obj << /S 59 /L 103 /Filter /FlateDecode /Length 30 0 R >> stream Thursday morning my recruiter calls and says my waiver was approved. I am the protagonist this story is about. hmo0%lv,JA1m0(j6)M! Because the military is not what it used to be. TABLE 3 TO PARAGRAPH (b)(1) URINE, CONFIRMATORY TEST CUTOFF LEVELS FOR DRUGS AND DRUG METABOLITES. They retest the same sample with stricter limitations to confirm it. (a) Initial drug testing. Its 50ng/ml initially and 15ng/ml for confirmation. Wtf? eab2725 5 yr. ago. I never get the exact same responses as I do with most other questions. It is important to keep in mind that the people who are sick in our minds are in no way the people we are testing for drugs. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. 0.5 ng/mL and Confirmatory Test Level was 0.4 ng/mL. 0000001186 00000 n In the case of urine analysis, drug testing cutoff levels are measured in nanograms per milliliter (ng/ml). How often did u smoke and was it flower or dabs? The change, effective April 3, is due to the level of illicit and prescription medication abuse among civilians, as well as the increase in heroin and synthetic drug use within the civilian population, Army Col. Tom Martin explained. I quit for good. Im like 51 and 140 pounds. January 1988-MEPS testing for THC and Cocaine started. JavaScript is disabled. %PDF-1.5 % That is, labs that follow the guidelines consider drug testing to be negative if detection is below either cutoff level. :@wp[jT}=|3{cmX&pIHV t)a6y0G;:vtt$`GqGp j"Z# But I hear your test is then sent to a lab where they test for 15ng? Will I pass? I really need a straight answer, and I would appreciate no guessing games. I smoked about 2-4 times a week before I (recently) quit. The main story is a group of people who are trying to kill each other. Breaking subreddit rules may result in a ban from r/newtothenavy and r/navy. In MEPS 100% of the people get tested. I have to answer this question. the other analyte(s) within the group must be 80 percent I just don't know if I'm clean or not yet. Get more prepared in the meantime. The new standards apply to all military applicants, including recruits entering through military entrance processing stations, as well as appointees to the service academies, incoming members of the ROTC, and officer candidates undergoing initial training in an enlisted status. the sum of the analytes present. @Vl}]m"#&aQPDvCPxq)QrKu9vNX I'm so worried that I will pass the initial test but get a callback later telling me I failed the lab test. most people, including my self will get kosher salt, dump 1/4 to 1/2 teaspoon of it into an 8floz water bottle and a few dashes of lemon concentrate, shake it up and drink it. Meps drug test cutoff Discussion in ' Marijuana Consumption Q&A ' started by Justlovedogs, May 17, 2020 . It takes closer to 3 months to get below that threshold, and I am apparently not there yet. 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