The 4REP and 3/4TC EMUs were a notable oddity, initially receiving all-over Rail Blue despite being express corridor stock. From 1966 until withdrawal, Pullman Coaches were also painted in the reversal of the normal coach livery, with the blue and grey areas transposed. RM CN0PKR - Britania 70000 in British Railways Livery at West Somerset Railway, Minehead, UK RM C1N4A7 - Totnes Littlehempston Station with Goods Vehicle in authentic 'British Railways' Livery, Totnes, Devon, England, United Kingdom RM ER5JCR - 46138 Royal Scot Class Steam Locomotive - British Railways L Bare minimum. Search for a trade mark - Intellectual Property Office (ipo.gov.uk), https://twitter.com/MrTimDunn/status/912009372292780033, Somewhere along the West Anglia Main Line. Railfreight livery, a colour scheme specifically for freight locomotives, was unveiled when Class 58 58001 drove through a plastic screen at Doncaster Works on 9 December 1982. More middle days; they were improving quite a bit in the 1990s. Upon sectorisation, most secondary passenger routes which did not fall under the InterCity or Network SouthEast banner were re-designated as Regional Railways (originally Provincial). There's rather a lot to list if you want to do it completely! Anyone got a suggestion for the government's latest bright idea today along the same lines, '. Do you think we should use different colours for regions like we sort of have now, https://twitter.com/_doublearrow/status/1455113527954493474/photo/1. This long term strategy for rail will be a landmark resource, enabling a clear and agreed direction for the railway. However many people were not happy with the loss of the traditional "historic" regional colour schemes as used by the former private companies. Here are his exact words: Hes concerned with the English vote. Job done. Steam locomotive 61306 Mayflower seen just outside Sittingbourne, Kent at lunchtime today. Some franchise brand names are good, such as Trans Pennine Express, but perhaps those longer distance brands might be lost to one all encompassing GBR brand. This has been confirmed by records held at the National Railway Museum. The anniversary of the Battle of Hastings which took place in 1066 was also used in publicity for the line. I think there would be huge advantages of a standard livery and branding across the Britain, in saving money and presenting a unified product to the customer. On this Wikipedia the language links are at the top of the page across from the article title. The BR that believed in having multiple liveries and brands? Not even all yellow fronted anymore. The UK, Britain, Great Britain, The British Isles, England - what's the difference? It may not display this or other websites correctly. The red stripe does work, very similar to what the Welsh are doing. The special saloons and a few other special coaches were also repainted in chocolate and cream but regular former GWR coaches carried maroon. You are using an out of date browser. BR's first standard locomotive liveries, adopted from 1949 onwards. The Double Arrow is used for stations on maps, so that's really a no-brainer frankly. And if Northern are still running trains to Glasgow, a new paint job would be a great moment for the Government to stump up for good rolling stock. It may not display this or other websites correctly. This is "straight out of 1975": I'm inclined to disagree there. And it that light it is intriguing that Ministers have. Sadly cream on modern stock looks quite bad, or I suspect one incarnation of GWR might have tried it white might work ok instead. All Regions. After this time small variations in the Rail Blue livery became much more common. I think it'll be more like East Coast (or whatever), the full height of the parallel tracks. Despite the InterCity brand having been introduced in 1966, in 1985 the word 'Executive' was dropped and the livery was applied to all coaches and many locomotives used on InterCity services. [7]. the handling/liability of pensions etc. I'm unsure about the livery as such, but if Great British Railways is taken forward, I'd expect 'GBR' to feature. "Image of No.47163 with Silver Jubilee Union Jack", History of Blood and Custard (Crimson Lake & Cream) Livery, Information on Freight Locomotive Liveries & logos, https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=British_Rail_corporate_liveries&oldid=1136093401, Articles with unsourced statements from December 2014, Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License 3.0. I am confident I could design a better package in a few hours, and I am not a design professional. Here is some variants of my original 'swallow inspired' design. I'm not convinced "InterCity" services warrant different branding now, as they are no longer of premium quality in terms of service provision; in many case they're just regional or commuter services (thinks XC and GWR in particular). [2] It was a dark, greyish blue tone which hid the effects of dirt well. [7], The reorganisation does not affect Northern Ireland, where the railway is already operated by the vertically integrated and already wholly state-owned Northern Ireland Railways. 3,609. thomalex said: One of the big ones is an end to endless rebranding of trains when the operator changes with various bit of old livery hanging about for a long time, never mind the cost and waste involved. Why not capitalize on it? Brunswick Green. It really does look dire. What is wrong with different routes and regions having different liveries? This livery was known as Large Logo livery as each side of the locomotive was dominated by a full body height BR double arrow symbol, and had the loco number prominently displayed at twice the previous size. They were numbered in two series, D5500-D5699 and D5800-D5862. GBR is similar enough to channel some continuity with BR but distinct enough to admit it's a different entity. There are some good brands out there - gWr for example is a superb piece of marketing prowess, alongside the "friendly nostalgia" of the Famous Five advertising. But do we really want to go back to that? Something timeless. The rail system is a public service not an art gallery. The standard livery for most British Railways steam locomotives was black, often with a thin red, cream and grey "lining" (trim), while express passenger locomotives were not painted "Brunswick Green" (Which was the former colour of the Great Western Railway) as is often stated, but were painted in British Standards: BS224 "Deep Bronze Green" also known as "Land Rover Deep Bronze Green LR001" with orange and black lining. Great Britain (or just Britain) is the mainland of England, Scotland and Wales. Non-corridor coaching stock and other multiple units received all-over Rail Blue until about 1980, when most received the same blue/grey livery as corridor coaching stock. Heh. It is not necessary to have it on platform signs as if you don't know you are on the railway when you see them there probably isn't much hope for you. [13], On 5 February 2022, the Department for Transport launched a public consultation for the location of GBRs headquarters. With the publication of the Williams review and the announcement of the renationalization of British Passenger Rail, i thought i might help out anyone exited for new liveries or branding for trains.. Due to the consequent muddle of liveries, many trains began to get an untidy if not tatty appearance which added to the run-down image of the railway. Its rolling stock initially carried the standard Rail Blue (or blue and grey) livery but in 1992, it introduced a new livery of red and grey, with pale blue and grey flashes. | Page 27 | RailUK Forums We're pleased to announce the launch of our new booking engine at tickets.railforums.co.uk, which helps support the running of the forum with every ticket purchased. Thus Class 47 47170 County of Norfolk, allocated to Stratford and a regular performer on trains between Liverpool Street and Norwich, was painted in Large Logo livery. The colour often appears inaccurately in photographs, generally appearing brighter and bluer than the real colour. The livery was applied only to some Class 309 "Clacton" units on the former Eastern Region and to a few of Classes 411 (4Cep), 419 (MLV) and 421 (4Cig) on the former Southern Region. Corridor coaching stock was originally trialled in LNWR coach plum and off-white (nicknamed Plum and Spilt Milk) before Crimson (carmine red) and Cream livery (nicknamed Blood and Custard) was adopted across the network; non-corridor stock was painted plain Crimson. The white paper does not specify whether the branding of devolved railways such as London Overground and Merseyrail will be affected.[7]. don't see an issue anywhere, as long as the concessions stay branded with whatever. JavaScript is disabled. This idea often seems to pop its head up. The British Isles is a the collection of European islands consisting of Great Britain, the island of Ireland, Isle of Man and the northern islands that are part of Scotland. Sponsor Post - registered members do not see these adverts; I wanted to go for something modern yet flexible. I imagine the LNER and GWR branding will be around the longest, as its allready kind of govt created and most in line with DfT standards. For locomotives used on internal British Rail duties, a separate livery of a plain darker grey was created. They were repainted into blue/grey in the early 1970s. Most of this nostalgia is from people who aren't old enough to remember just how rubbish latter day BR often was. [14] After this date, the passenger versions of Class 37 and 47, as well as Class 50, were routinely outshopped in this livery. The Blue Pullman sets retained their livery of Nanking Blue (albeit with full yellow ends) until 1969 when they were repainted in the reversed grey and blue livery. The devolved administrations, the combined authorities, and the Greater London Authority will continue to exercise their current powers, such as setting fares and awarding contracts, and will remain democratically accountable for this. Different NSE style local/commuter networks round the country. I can sort of understand lumping Moorgate services in with London Overground, but LNER to Kings Lynn has been suggested many times without any compelling reason as to why, beyond "something something intercity standard. Due to the small number of units repainted it was common to see trains with two or more units in different liveries. Infrastructure, passenger, and freight services were separated at that time. I agree I think the NR logo in the circle looks better, but GBR is such a mouthful - its just latent fear of the British Rail brand. 1948 -. This colour was applied to all diesel and electric locomotives, with the exception of the ends, which were painted yellow to improve visibility, and the underframes and buffer beams which were painted black; the paints being to BSS 2660-0.003 and BSS 2660-9.103 respectively. (Something that ought to give die-hard advocates of splitting off the Scottish Conservatives pause for thought.) In terms of signage, here's what I was working on this morning: Compared to the superb branding packages of TfW and ScotRail, it does not say "come use the railway, it's good", it says "we have spent the bare minimum, stick to your car". Managed to get a look at a new proposed one: But my point is that DB have had the same basic livery for so long. If Scotland leaves the UK it must become British Rail as Britain is defined as just England & Wales! I don't think there would ever be multiple logos for Great British Railways as you've alluded to - it would make it complicated for the end passenger. They are an intercity operator. It does look better than red. Or do you think TfL should change their look away from using the current font simply because it's been that way since the 1930s or whenever? Something will need to be kept open for Open Access Operators to be distinguished. In 2001, as passenger work for diesel locomotives operated by Virgin CrossCountry came to an end, a number of their Class 47s were painted in "heritage" liveries that they had carried in the past, including the former D1733, now 47853, which once again carried a near-correct version of the XP64 livery. The infrastructure was privately owned and operated by Railtrack from 1994 to 2002, when it was renationalised and transferred to Network Rail. Blue Pullman in grey and blue livery arriving at Bristol Temple Meads in 1973. And although BR did changes, it was still the same basic livery really. Class 14s D9537 (in desert sand livery) and D9539 prepare a double-head a train on the Ribble Steam Railway. Well Id have thought it might be GBR Northern or GBR Southern. particularly associated with the depots at Old Oak Common and The creation of Great British Railways (GBR) has been dubbed as the end to "a quarter-century of fragmentation" and a means to provide "accountable national leadership". There is surely a case at least for putting the cross-border inter-city services in national colours (perhaps an updated take on Network SouthEast), to match the saltires splashed all over Scotrail trains. The rail system is no more a public service than coach companies or supermarkets. British Railways was formed in 1948, it was divided into geographical regions loosely based on the pre-war Big Four company areas, Scotland became a region on its own and the former LNER area was divided into North Eastern and Eastern Regions. By 2020s Britain, I mean a design that is reflective of modern day marketing and branding. Eventually, it was decided to standardise on a colour which became known as Rail Blue. Read about the differences between Britain, the. GBR will own all stations and most infrastructure in Great Britain. Finsbury Park. It appears that while the plan is to brand all trains under GBR with one branding, that plan involves a much longer time scale: . Then why was the old version called British Railways, not Great British Railways, and why the change now for the new version if British Railways worked . For example, GWRs London to Bristol, Penzance, Cardiff, Oxford etc might be wrapped up with a GBR Express or GBR Intercity, but the GWR commuter/regional services under a different brand name. its going to be at least 6 months before we even get a branding document, and IMO over 2 years before we get any new liveries or Humbrol paints. Why do you show the double-arrow logo *and* the words "Great British Railways"? 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